Jeanne Marie Ketchel
Channeled by Jan Ketchel

Dear Jeanne,
I still have some questions about energetic intent and rescuing someone who appears to be caught in another world. I know that Carlos Castaneda, for instance, had an episode of being caught in another world, drawn to rescue a little girl he perceived as needing help. In the process of rescuing her, he got caught. He called this child “The Blue Scout” because her energy was the color blue. He then had to be rescued from remaining attached to this child figure, lost in a world far from the path he was on. He could not leave a child in danger, as his weakness was that he could not let anyone be trapped, and especially a child. Yet, she was not, in actuality, a child, but an entity. This gets complicated, and Chuck is more knowledgeable about it than I am, but I see the scenario as similar to an addiction, or a challenge to be overcome. In his case, he was being drawn to what he perceived was an abandoned child, but in fact he was being caught by an entity who was testing his ability to detach from the illusion of need (addiction), among other things.

Anyway, my question today is, if we perceive that someone is caught, such as Carlos was, is it right to rescue them, provided we maintain our awareness? And provided we are not wrongly perceiving what is presented, and end up like Carlos? Do you understand what I’m asking?

Yes, I do. Although Carlos was caught by this child, so was it necessary for him to encounter her, for she was a projection of his own inner child. Yet was she also an entity who knowingly enticed him to her presence. In actuality, it was necessary for him to experience her world, in order to grow.

Why then did he have to be rescued? Couldn’t he have gotten out of the situation on his own?

The rescue, as you perceive it to be, was not, in fact, a rescue of physical proportions, but a rescue of intent that woke him up, shook him awake, so that his awareness could kick in, back into cognition and alertness, enabling him to see his folly. For it was folly on his part, becoming entrapped by that which was at his own deepest core, yet caught by the outer presentation of it in a crying, moaning child, rather than perceiving what lay underneath. What lay underneath was also necessary for that child to experience. Do you see?

Okay, so both Carlos and the Blue Scout were mutually in a place they needed to be. And the rescue was an awakening so that he could understand his predicament and be energetically capable of removing himself from the situation. Was it not an exhausting episode in his life? (This sounds like my own encounter with crashing into a deer, as mentioned in Message #405.)

Yes, it was, by all standards not only exhausting, but energetically life threatening. This is one of the problems of entering into other worlds; losing or steadily declining awareness, and being energetically drained by what you are attached to, suffering greatly in the long run.

So the point that I continually make, as regards other worlds, is that as you are entrapped, so is your awareness dimmed. Your alertness is dimmed, and your energy is siphoned off by the world around you. In the reality of earth, this is quite noticeable right now, even on a daily basis. You go about your routines, rushing around, needing, consuming, and in most cases losing conscious attachment to your spiritual self. You often remind your self that you are a spiritual being. You yearn, peripherally, to return to your spiritual practices, yet are you unable to get your self to a place of clarity.

Allowing the self to be drawn to the real world, to fully experience it, to be confronted by aspects of the self that must be tried, indulged, and then challenged, are all necessary. If you find your self caught where you do not wish to be, if your awareness kicks in and alerts you to your own folly (and I do not mean folly in a negative way, but as a moniker to describe something that you will not need later in life) so will you eventually find your way out of that world, when the time is right. In the case of Carlos, the time was right, though it took tremendous energetic effort, by himself and others, for his energy was at quite a low point.

So that leads me to the question of using energetic intent to enact a rescue. Can you give examples of how we can do this, if we perceive a need and are willing to risk our own energy?

Yes, this is what transpires, quite often, in prayer, in group meditation, in collective awareness being directed in the aid of another, or many others. In your own country, awareness has increased dramatically to such a state of heightened cognition, noticing that things are in dire straits. The energy of America has long been drained by outside entities feeding off its bounty, invited in by the greed of the capitalistic system. I know I may sound quite radical, but if you put the situation in terms of energy, so has America gotten caught in another world. Vital energy, necessary for growth, has been sidetracked and consumed, as so many have gotten caught in the illusion of riches, material in content, with little spiritual value.

However, at a moment of most dire consequence, an awakening of energetic intent has been perpetrated upon the masses, begun by those whose vision was not clouded or denied them by the forces of greed. Luckily, there remained many eyes and hearts of clarity in order to enact an energetic change. But this change will not simply happen by the intent of the few who began the push. It must be sustained by being taken up by those who have been caught, blind sided, and lied to. Those of you who have awakened must now stay awake. This is your individual challenge and your collective challenge. For now that a great awakening has happened, now that a shift has occurred, so will the dark entities seek reentry and the return of the crown into their possession.

Possession of the crown of greed is not the energetic spiritual revolution that is taking place, but the false war. You have been granted clarity many times in your life. You have had your hands upon the crown of the inner spirit king. But how many times have your hands slipped away, as you have seen something else, or tasted something else that is more enticing? I perceive, Jan, that your question about rescuing people from addiction as running the gamut of the meaning of the word, addiction. From serious drug addictions to addiction to power; to material items; to the big baby; to the bad relationship; to the fears of old; and to doubt, that troublesome partner who is along for the ride on this journey you take; among many other things. Am I right?

Yes, I see addiction as multi-faceted, yet also multi-defined, as you state. When I use the word, addiction, I’m speaking of all types of problems that we encounter as we go through life. When we feel caught, helpless, and unable to get beyond our stuck places (addicted), how can we energetically shift?

Ask for help, My Dear. All of you Readers of my messages, if you are in a place of helplessness, do not refuse your own spirit, speaking words of encouragement, to ask for help outside of your self. Do not refuse your inner knowing that says: Yes, I am in need of help.

Here is An Asking Prayer for you: “Send me energetic accompaniment, so that I can shift. Aid me in my struggles by offering me clarity, so that I may awaken and take back my own energy, pointing it properly upon my own personal path of growth. Release me from attachment to the dark entities that steal my energy, my awareness, and my life. Help me to return my awareness to my inner heart-centered journey, to my place of calm knowing, and my place of inner work. Help me to understand that my challenges are necessary. Help me to accept my deepest inner truths. Help me to have the strength, the energy, and the fearlessness necessary to accept my truths with the strength of a warrior, the awakened energy of a warrior. Thank you for aiding me, for guiding me, for showing me the way to my self.”

You know, My Dears, that is all that life is about. It is showing you the way to your inner destiny, your inner completion, and the doors that lead to your evolution. Remain alert to your challenges. Do not fear your journey or doubt what you receive to lead you on your way. Accept your truths, no matter how dire or frightening they may be to your ego self. Keep your eyes open, focused, and truth seeking. Listen for words of truth outside of you that resonate with the words of truth inside you. Guide your self, even as you request guidance of others. Stay awake!

Jeanne Marie Ketchel
Channeled by Jan Ketchel

Dear Jeanne,
Thank you for the last two messages, #405 and #406. Chuck mentioned that your fairy tale analogy was very Jungian. I like Jung’s idea that we are all living a fairy tale, myth, or archetype. I would like to continue more conversations regarding confrontations and experiences in other worlds. However, I don’t have a lot of time today, so I was wondering if you could briefly address my previous questions regarding getting stuck in other worlds. Is it possible for someone to get so caught in another world that they cannot get themselves out? You mentioned that it was our choice to make, but what if an evil entity has us captive? What are the possibilities of rescuing someone who seems doomed?

Well, My Dear Jan, you ask too many questions for just a brief answer, but I will give you some nuggets of information to chew on and mull over. When you ask about being in other worlds and getting out of other worlds, so do I contend that yes, the choice to enter and exit is present, but may not be conscious. Awareness may not be the driving factor, but spirit intent to grow, to recapitulate, to experience something of value may be directly behind why people have entry into other worldly encounters. In your case, you were being presented with a possibility, but you were not ready for it, and that became very clear as you ran in fear from your pursuers. Little did you know that your pursuers were offering an unusual opportunity to follow your spirit on a different journey. But you were not ready at that time to encounter the spirit world. You were only ready to do what your outer self had determined was necessary for you to have experience of, in order to grow. So your running out of that situation was a personal battle. They were not an evil or sinister group, as you perceived them, but they were your own worlds of possibilities being simultaneously presented to you.

On the other hand, if someone is seduced into another world by evil intent, so must that evil lurk inside them, needing an outlet. To go into darkness, to test the very core of the self, to pull out of the self the darkness, is also an aspect of spirit growth. What lies hidden inside all of you, at your deepest cores, is everything that you could possibly imagine. You are all capable of everything. You are neither clearly cruel, heartless, despicable, nor holy, spiritual, or clean alone, but a true mix of everything. That being said, your lives upon that earth, your many lives, are lived in order for all aspects of the self to emerge, to live fully, and to recede, no longer necessary for spiritual renewal to happen. Once an aspect of the self is fully lived, so is it no longer enticing to the spirit, nor to expression by the ego self either, and the two parts of the self find new aspects to live fully instead. Does that make sense?

Yes, it does. But what happens to people who seem to be caught in dark places, not necessarily evil, but perhaps perceived as damaging, unfulfilling, such as addicts, thieves, murderers, liars, cheats, etc.?

As I mentioned, those lives are chosen because they are necessary. It is your judgment that they are caught, but perhaps it is just their time of expression of the dark side. Each one of you is no better or worse off simply because you are not limited to such darkness. No, each of you are equally challenged to fully live what your spirit deems is necessary. Your spirit pushes you each day, in many ways, yet do you notice? Do you interpret your spirit intent correctly? In your long ago episode, Jan, did you not choose to interpret it one way, when in fact it could have gone in a totally different direction?

You must also remember that all of this intent and choice and possibility that I speak of, is energetically driven. Your awareness may not be in tune, but your energy is always in tune and available. So, your energy directs the way things go, until your awareness is trained and conscious, or at least more often so. If someone is energetically caught in another world, so do I still contend that they are energetically choosing to be there, for reasons that only their spirit and their spirit guides may know about.

Should people be rescued?

Oftentimes, are rescues undertaken, but I maintain, that these rescues be also energetically undertaken by collective intent. If you slip into darkness, (as you did many times, My Dear One) your collective energetic intent, by which I mean your spirit, your spirit guides, your life necessities, as dictated by your spirit at choosing that life, and many other factors, all would play a part, in both your position of being in darkness and your removal as well. Were you not kept safe, even as you experienced the most dire of circumstances? Were you not energetically supported, as you took your journey through that life? Were you not energetically provided with everything you needed in life, to get you where you are now?

I maintain my contention of choice, yet do I also extend that choice beyond your conscious choice and place it in the capable hands of collective intent. You are all on journeys of the utmost meaning. You are all guided and protected, yet are you also challenged, each time you enter life upon that earth, to fully live the aspects of the self that must be allowed full expression. If you do not, so will you return to give them another opportunity to manifest.

It is often said, and by many prophets: do not judge others, for they are but the same poor sods as you once were, as you are capable of being, and as you must be. Place not your selves in either superior places, nor in denial of your own darkness. Accept your archetypes, your myths, and your fairy tales as aspects of the self that must be fully lived, explored and, when ready, laid calmly aside, another costume taken off, no longer necessary.

Your inner and outer worlds are collectively joined by intent of spirit purpose. Do not doubt this, but fully live who you are, so that you do not have to waste time doing it again. Use your recapitulation process to discover who you are, to discover all the hidden aspects of self, your dark parts, but also your good parts. That is your job upon that earth, to meet those murderers in the fog, and ask them who they seek. They may be simply seeking to alert you to an aspect of the self that you are unaware of, such as your mighty king upon the throne, dictating your life, though your spirit was aware of other possibilities.

This has perhaps gotten to be a long message after all! Good Luck, My Dear Readers. Keep flowing; and remember, the collective intent has good as its ultimate crown.

Jeanne Marie Ketchel
Channeled by Jan Ketchel

Dear Jeanne,
Today, I would like to follow up the “other world” experience that we discussed the other day with a few additional questions. On that day, in June 1977, when I had that experience in the horse meadow, I had been, as I mentioned, sewing my wedding dress. I had, in fact, pricked my finger with the needle as I was doing some hand stitching and gotten blood on the white fabric. I remember trying to wash it out, thinking that it was a bad omen, a foreshadowing of something, though I couldn’t quite figure out what it meant. But I knew it had to do with the fact that I was soon to be married.

My question today is, what did all of this mean? What did it mean that as I was sewing my wedding dress, I pricked my finger, got blood on the gown, then went for a walk and stepped into that medieval world where something sinister was brewing? Can you offer me some more insight into the process and the experience?

I am inclined to use a fairy tale analogy to explain your situation since it so nicely fits that format. You, a young woman about to be married, were sitting and sweetly sewing, blissfully unaware that evil lurks, always waiting for the opportunity to hatch a plan. Your red blood dropping onto your white wedding gown was innocence spilled, but also about to be challenged. Your desperate attempts to wash it out, to hide it, were, in fact, your deepest desires to remain in your own world, untouched by what was waiting for you, yet knowing that it was inevitable. You could not control the process, but you could, by your actions, deny to your self that change was upon you. Your requirements of your self, at that time, were that you move forward, no matter what, that you proceed as planned, in spite of the dire warnings you had given your self in numerous ways.

Your entry into another world, also on that day, attempted to introduce you to the fact, and I stress the word fact, that in spite of your controlling efforts were you, in fact, not in control. As you walked a path that you had been on many times before, so did you resolve to shake off the disturbing facts that were coming to you. Remember? You walked to get away from the consequences of your decisions. For as they were unfolding, you were losing control of your truest self, and your truest desires. Were you not being shown another world of possibilities?

Yes, you were being shown the magic that exists right before your eyes. You were the princess in the fairy tale who must marry because it is determined by another. The king says, “You may marry my daughter, worthy knight!” Yet were you, the princess, aware that you were not in agreement. And this was true. Your entry into the medieval setting was showing you the other option, opening a door to awareness, offering you a way out of your predicament. But the king, your own inner king, was not going to allow you to break your word, your code of conduct. Your determined self was in control of the situation, making sure that all was perfect. Even down to every tiny, even stitch upon your wedding gown was going to be done properly, by you alone.

So you must admit, you not only chose your path, but you also paved it piece by piece with stones that you hand-selected and placed at your feet. This was your challenge at the time. Many others have walked the same path; ashamed to admit that they were making a mistake, yet equally determined to do it right. To make a mistake, yet make that mistake a work of art is quite a common goal!

As you walked to shake off your truths, My Dear, your inner truth was not willing to be silenced so easily, or so finally. Your spirit self had other desires that had nothing to do with marriage. You resided in one pretty foggy world, yet was the day, as you described it, quite clear and beautiful. You could not allow your own clear truth to be seen. However, your spirit allowed you to be a part of some magic that day, in an attempt to offer you knowledge of things to come in your life, yet also knowledge of things hidden, and as yet unrevealed. Your life was being presented to you in the analogy of the scene, the murder about to be committed. Was it not what was happening to your spirit? Was it not about to be murdered?

The horses and riders chasing after you were but your innermost desires attempting to catch up with you, to show you that what you were about to do was going to murder your spirit, stifle it, keep it locked down for many years to come.

You had to keep the experience a secret, for your lover was not your true one, no connection to your inner truths could be found there. Your secrets remained hidden, as you told no one of your experience, but simply returned to your seat and continued sewing diligently upon your white gown. You were the perfect princess, resolved to duty, the inner king in control, while in the shadows lurked the truth.

The murderer was you. The deed done at the moment of escape from the medieval scene, as you leapt back into your sunny June day. Yes, you achieved a sense of safety, but it was but the decision to remain upon the path as laid out by the king, rather than face the truth of what you were doing to your spirit self. You see? It is not really so complicated. Yet at the time, were you but a child still, in many senses, but a child under lock and key, locked in by the king, who was the self as well.

Your journey into timelessness was, as I said previously, very necessary. You held onto that vision from that day forth, a nugget of gold inside, given to you on that day, a wedding gift, knowledge of things to come. When I speak of timelessness, do you not see how it all comes together again, as if no time had passed? Your world then parallels your world now, the two worlds of that day, and all the worlds since. See how nicely they all fit together?

Your puzzle is fitting together quite nicely, but perhaps it is no longer quite a puzzle, My Dear One? Take your pieces now, all the bits of knowledge about the self. This I advise all My Readers to do. Accept all your parts; your inner parts; your king, your princess, your dutiful child self, and your spirit self who is so capable and available to have experiences. Allow them to coexist in truthfulness; acknowledging, accepting, and allowing them to be present in this time of timelessness, with this gift of knowing who you are. For you are all those pieces; and your fairy tale is not over yet either. You have many more experiences to come!